so with being back in Louisville for a week today, and only playing vettiner a couple of times since I've started playing, I decided to head out yesterday and today for a good round...Yesterday on hole 12 I nailed the basket at CV with a Champion Cobra, too bad it didn't stick. Today, i walk up to hole 10 with a 165 Star Sidewinder, release it slightly wide right, it comes in, hits the top of the brick wall and pounces in the basket for ace # 8 today...wildest skip ace I have ever seen, unfortunately, there were no witnesses